by neilmidlane » Fri Dec 13, 2013 8:29 am
Thank you for the replies. For more clarity, below is the comment from the reviewer in the first round of reviews and my response:
Reviewer: I suggest that you do not extrapolate your model to areas that you did not survey. If you DO extrapolate, then keep in mind that prediction limits, rather than confidence limits, should properly be your estimate of uncertainty for these projections. (Consider that the CL for the overall mean PAU (Proportion of Area Used) ranges from 0.53 - 0.91.given this, the prediction limits probably range almost 0 -1). If you present spatial representations of PLU, you must also provide maps that reveal the uncertainty about PLU. It is important that the uncertainty is not downplayed when extrapolating from 18 transects to the entire park, particularly in products such as maps that might be 'under-analyzed' by users
Response: We surveyed 41 of 73 grid cells (i.e. 56.2%). By comparison Sunarto et al. (2012) surveyed ±15% of cells in their study area, whilst Linkie et al., (2006) surveyed only 3.8% (200 of 5262) cells in theirs, yet both these authors extrapolated to unsurveyed sites, and presented predictive maps similar to ours. The latter presented no data on variability in their estimates in their map, while the former present representative imagery for coefficient of variation (CV) in each cell.
Based on the approach adopted in these studies and our greater sampling effort we felt justified in extrapolating our results. However, we appreciate the cautionary note when considering users of the map, and we have thus refined our map to graphically present CVs in each cell (new Figure 3) following Sunarto et al. (2012), as these result in a less cluttered representation than trying to represent prediction limits. We add this step to our methods (line 297 in revised MS).
Here is the second response from the reviewer:
Concern about extrapolation of the results to un-surveyed areas still remains, even though the rebuttal cites precedents for such extrapolation. If the extrapolation is retained, then prediction limits must be shown, because confidence limits do not correctly describe the uncertainty of these extrapolations. The concern is not addressed by the statement "we refined our map to graphically present CVs in each cell (new Figure 3) following Sunarto et al. (2012), as these result in a less cluttered representation than trying to represent prediction limits." One can't validly present a CV for a cell that one did not study. Although prediction limits will (correctly) be noisier than these CVs, that is exactly the point.
In light of this and your replies to my original post, could either of you provide some more guidance?
Thanks very much!
Neil