Relationship between temporary emigration and S in Robust Mo

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Relationship between temporary emigration and S in Robust Mo

Postby Miguel » Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:19 pm

(I have edited my question in case someone can benefit from my experience)

The data
Capture-recaptures for male and female rodents (Oryzomys palustris). 13 primary periods with 3 secondary periods each.

The problem
In summary, interaction models (e.g., S(Sex*t)) resulted in male survival rates near 1.0 for every period. In addition, female emigration rates in most models were not inestimable.

What the problem appears to have been
First, the data for this particular period was more sparse than data from other periods and it was simply not possible to estimate the additional variation in interaction models. Secondly, there was only one single occasion when a female was unobserved between primary periods and therefore there was no temporary female emigration.

My 'solution'
I did not use interaction models and I fixed female emigration rates to 0. Parameter estimates were decent and model selection turned out to be insightful. My lazy mistake was that I made assumptions about this small analysis without having first looked at the M array to get a better feeling for the data. Lesson learned.

Cheers,
Miguel
Last edited by Miguel on Thu Oct 20, 2011 5:38 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: Relationship between temporary emigration and S in Robus

Postby claudiapenaloza » Wed Oct 19, 2011 3:01 pm

Have you tried to let female and male gamma' and gamma" vary independently? Either (.) or (t) models? It seems like your gamma's equal or male/female equal models are excessively restrictive, i.e., you may want to toss them.
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Re: Relationship between temporary emigration and S in Robus

Postby Miguel » Thu Oct 20, 2011 4:45 pm

Claudia,

Thank you for your suggestion. Less restrictive models did result in estimable parameter rates. I was concerned that may have had some unforeseen confounding rather than parameters that were inestimable. After looking at the captures for the periods in this analysis, I realized that the data was too sparse for models with interaction terms.

Thank you again for your suggestion, I appreciate it.

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Re: Relationship between temporary emigration and S in Robus

Postby claudiapenaloza » Thu Oct 20, 2011 5:29 pm

Glad I could help.
Cheers,
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